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I don’t think Mr. Beast knows how the Streisand effect works
#this year is just. a bunch of ppl I was critical of being uh- I hate internet lingo- cAnCellEddd#I don’t think it’ll work lol. with internet situations people care for a week and then don’t care#lemons random rants#I was critical of MrBeast before but not in the way of actually like- hating him? just his glazers#it’s like uhh that saying.#feed a poor person and you’re a hero#ask why they’re poor and you’re… I forgot the rest.#mr beast#mr beast situation#anti mr beast#< for reach. I don’t like. hate him.#I reserve my hate for special kinds of people…#ppl who harm animals for example? hateeee them#but I do think his glazers were highkey annoying.#btw unrelated but I was watching a video on Ava Chris Tyson the other day. Uploader clarified it wasn’t an anti-trans video and proceeded…#…to use gays against groomers as proof that trans people can be against grooming. true- but like- minimal research into what that org is#not sure they’d agree with you#edit: I just found out about the animals being used as props thing. uh. I may or may not take back my earlier lack of dislike.#the karnavicle… karnivacle… karnov- whatever- that one dude who criticised Mr Beast a lot must feel vindicated right now
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hi, I saw one of ur posts talking Abt things that shouldn't be done for vitiligo rep, and one thing u mentioned was the like connect to animals that r black and white. I was wondering about kinda like, the reverse of that? The reason is I have a character I was designing who's kind of similarish to a mermaid, and I wanted to base some of his design off an orca. I was considering doing the black/white coloration, but I was wondering if that would be too similar to vitiligo. Personally his design is very early with regard to animal motif stuff, so I can put the orca elements into his design in other ways, but I also wanted to ask what you feel might be preferable handling with similar cases (like zebra centaurs, panda or cow humans and other animals who naturally have black/white coloring or similar contrasting colors)-
The main question is if u think the characters actually bringing up that they don't have vitiligo, but rather have common patterns, like saying "most of us have skin/hair/etc color variation bc it's just how our pigment works by default, but ppl with vitiligo have it bc of autoimmune reasons + (giving details on it and maybe mentioning a diff character in story w vitiligo)"
having the variation only affect specific things, for example black/white hair (like an orca mermaid having white eyebrows that mimic orca eyespots) without the skin pigmentation being affected (potentially also bringing up vitiligo to make it specific they aren't connected)
Or just trying to avoid having any animal based color choices that evoke the image of vitiligo, which is totally understandable if u feel the prev examples are still linking vitiligo to animals in a way that's ultimately harmful ppl w vitiligo.
Mostly I wonder if explicitly stating it's a different thing would actually help to combat the idea, or if it's just one of those things that is better to completely avoid doing
Hello!
I think it depends on how far it goes is the determining factor. A zebra centaur who has the zebra coloration on their horse part isn't a problem and doesn't evoke a vitiligo connection, the same way that a gray horse part wouldn't evoke argyria. I would say that the same goes for hair coloration, in media the hair color is kinda "anything goes" either way.
But if you want to make a mermaid who has an orca bottom half, and vitiligo on the upper half, that is an issue. The problem is that readers, and people in general, just don't see the nuance and end up linking animal coloration with vitiligo anyway - I mean, it's not like cows in real life have it, but people still get compared to them. The visual is enough, even if there are in-universe explanations, in my opinion. Vitiligo is still dramatically misunderstood, and it's very much a case of "if it looks like vitiligo, it is vitiligo" when it comes to design choices like this.
In short; animal part with black/white coloration: cool, hair/eyebrows/etc: cool, skin: not cool. It just hits too close to the real life condition.
With that said, I don't think there's an issue having a character with vitiligo who's part animal if you're not trying to link the two. A catfish mermaid with vitiligo on her human part would be cool :-)
And for other ideas when it comes to mermaids and disability - a lot of people with limb differences that I know would enjoy a clownfish mermaid with an upper limb difference, the term "lucky fin" exists for a reason:-)!
I hope this helps!
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i genuinely hate how the only plus size/ fat rep in both shows is given to either BG characters viv wasn't involved in or just the "evil guys". you cannot tell me that woman has any respect for plus sized people at all.. she enforces harmful stereotypes and outright refuses to add ANY diversity to her characters (the "i'm afraid to draw muscles" bs for example)
• literally how can you make the embodiment of gluttony not at least a little bit chubby?? she literally can summon all types of foods & drinks?? thats her entire thing?? she is built like a kardashian.. how. if you're gonna depict the main two fat ppl in your shows as food addicted a-holes why not stay consistent (impossible for her)
•both main fat characters (adam, mammon) are always seen eating unhealthy stuff in masses. a very harmful stereotype. and also adding to the stigma plus sized ppl face on a daily basis.
•not to mention the constant fat "jokes" directed at moxxie, which are a) unnecessary and b) blatantly wrong?? moxxie isn't even fat?? and even then its always implied fat people are fat because they can't stop eating or only eat junk food, like blitz telling moxxie to eat a salad. or loona.
• husk. that man literally consumes alcohol like it's water and he doesn't have an alcohol belly??? hello??? thats...not avoidable when you're an alcoholic... SAME FOR VEROSIKA.
•the mammon & fizz bs. a fat character telling an already skinny person they're "chungo?" and he should lose weight cause people find it sexy af? and its outright implied its bad behavior? she's just immensly hypocritical with this. loona & blitz said similar things towards moxxie but there it's funny & acceptable? f off.
•mimzy is the only fat character that she designed that is close to the HH main cast and she's also portrayed as a shitty person. every fat character is a shitty person and called out for it.(adam with charlie, mammon with fizz, and mimzie with alastor) everyone else literally looks the same and is equally shitty as a person but is never called out because its her blorbos.
but we're talking about the woman who turned st. peter into a blue eyes, blone haired anime twink and refuses to draw BIPOC- or any diversity for that matter....
Adam and Mammon are so similar that Vivianne might as well make them the same character...
And Mimzy my love....they did you dirty
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How are you able to like Homelander and not condone his actions at the same time, without feeling crappy? This sounds accusing but I’m asking bc I’m struggling with it. I know ppl who do the same with characters, but I’ve had an unwelcome fixation on him come out of nowhere and I feel sick and guilty bc I feel like everyone will think I’m some kind of freak or something. I’m very much anti-sa and other gross stuff esp as a victim but I still feel like I’m being hypocritical or something. I’m sorry for the weird message but I feel like I’m losing my mind
The short answer is that he’s fictional. Think of… I dunno, an antagonist in media of a different form (let’s go with anime). I was a naruto kid growing up, so let’s use Orochimaru for an example. My guy was on some fuck shit through the entire show. Snatching bodies, murkin’ Hokages, wild experiments, all that shit with Sasuke, and so on. People still liked him regardless because he was a cool character despite the bad things he’s done. Some people may have even found him relatable in certain ways. I feel like it’s the same concept here.
You don’t have to feel bad about enjoying fictional characters, no matter how awful they may be. At the end of the day, they’re fictional and their actions have harmed nobody in real life. Their actions may mirror that which does harm real people, but they themselves have not dealt real harm to real people. Enjoying them does not mean you condone their actions.
I’m also extremely anti-SA, and am a victim of it myself, but I still find a lot of love and appreciation for Homelander’s character– but this isn’t hypocritical. My love for him doesn’t come from the fact he has perpetrated that act, nor should it come from that. I love him as a character with the bottom line that he is… extremely complex.
I’ve said it for years now, but I think Homelander is a compelling tale of the dangers of commodifying the human soul. He is an example of how awful someone can turn out if you deprive them of humanity with the goal of creating a product. People are not products, we are not a means to an end, and we certainly should never be treated that way. He was, and this is how he turned out. He’s a take on the cyclical nature of trauma in a lot of really interesting ways as well.
I find him relatable from a standpoint of my own traumas and being transgender. Episode four of s4 revealed that I have a jarring amount of trauma that mirrors his own to some capacity. I’ve always suspected these things, and I’ve had headcanons since the first season, and having them confirmed reminded me just how much I’ve latched onto this character because of it. Homelander experienced some degree of sexual abuse in the labs– and I wager there may have been worse than simply being called ‘squirt.’ Homelander was subjected to physical torture and locked in a room where his mind slowly fractured, all while being conditioned to never seek escape otherwise he’d be too devastated from disappointing the scientists or losing their ‘love.’
I have experienced SA, I was locked in my room with nothing as punishment (my 'bad room'), had very little privacy and next to no access to boundaries as a kid, I was put through physical pain very often by a sibling (my furnace), I was reared and conditioned to have a fear of disappointing others so severe it made my blood pressure drop into the danger zone a couple times as a kid– and still has similar effects as an adult. I’d literally pass out, have panic/anxiety attacks, vomit, etc. I also know what it’s like, as a trans man, to have been raised and reared for a life that was designed for me, but was not me. I was lucky enough to find my way to the person I needed to be; Homelander has not and likely will not ever be able to do so. In all of the aforementioned, I have a lot of empathy and compassion for him that combines with my fascination with his complexity. There were a lot of things in my life that should have pushed me down the road to be an awful person, much like the things in his life did. But I had a handful of people to guide me toward better things. He didn’t.
But I see myself in there nonetheless. Homelander was the first time I ever saw so much of my own trauma on display in a single character. I’d love to hug the man and tell him he’s enough, show him the humanity he was and continues to be denied, and so on. When I realized that means that I would, in turn, do that for myself if I only viewed myself through a lens that wasn’t my own, my life changed. This character changed my life. I know I thirst-post about him a lot, but my love for Homie runs a lot deeper than just finding him attractive, you feel?
A fictional character doesn’t have to be one of moral high ground or superiority for it to be okay for you to enjoy them. You can enjoy characters who commit horrible acts. This does not make you someone who condones horrible acts. I was initially pretty embarrassed to admit I like Homelander as much as I do, but I slowly realized that it does not make me a bad person and it should never be used as a gauge to find out how ‘moral’ someone is or not. People like Hannibal Lecter, people like Thomas Hewitt, Joffrey, Albert Wesker, Cletus Kasady– any number of fictional characters who have an ugly record or have done horrific things. We do not assume someone is evil because they like Hannibal, nor should we do the same for people who like Homelander.
At the end of the day, do what makes you happy. If exploring Homie is something you would have fun with, do it! Engage in media, learn tales of caution and tragedy– stories make us human. You are not inhuman for enjoying Homelander and his tale. In fact, I would argue you are very human because of it.
#homelander#the boys#ask#anon#i'm sorry if this was long. i just feel like you deserve a good answer friend.#my inbox is always a safe spot if you want to talk about him#sehtoast rambles
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I just think it needs to be said that adults have to regulate themselves in online spaces in a way that is responsible for minors in fandom spaces. This will be long im sorry.
And im not specifically talking about adults with lists of DNI minors and block anyone at or under a certain age as well as make it clear their blog may not be safe for minors (ie spaces with a lot of nsfw content). Though curating an experience is a big part of being responsible of course. This post though is mostly delving into adults' behavior and how you need to be aware of your behavior.
For example, if you're an adult who purposefully curates a blog dedicated to fandom discourse, harming other people in the fandom, vagueing, and just having general toxicity about people ESPECIALLY when the targets of said harassment and toxicity are often the youngest in the fandom this is something you really need to reevaluate yourself about for a million reasons but including how this harms and serves as a poor example to younger people what a fandom space is meant to be. Like when I see minors involved in these types of toxicity, not to say they shouldn't be informed or held accountable or the ppl harmed should forgive them, but as an adult I mostly feel sad. I feel sad because I hope they're going to be okay when they're my age and look back on themselves. I hope they're safe esp when the adults around them act like this kind of behavior is normal and okay even though they've long graduated high school (even though ot wasn't okay then either for the record). Like does it not bother you that you're an adult who feels superior sending hate campaigns and ask box harassment and cyberbullying to minors on the internet because you're insecurities are that large and you've no ability to regulate them healthily? Does it not bother you that you teach young ppl in the fandom to do similarly by your actions, and affect their experience? Does the harm not bother you?
Because it should bother you. When you grow up especially in online fandom spaces you do need to be more aware of not only your words in general, but how many people may look up to you and use you as example and that you have a responsibility to be healthy online for the sake of yourself, others, and esp the youngest of the fandom.
Because it hurts to think ppl can grow up in fandom to think "oh sending kys and gore and dead animals over [insert discourse] plus potentially bigotry is normal because everyone around me does it and I want to fit in and I also fear speaking up against the adults who do this because you know the harassment".
And you might say "well cup im just gonna block all minors the end I get to harass people forever hahaha haha!" And well okay, but for another post (plus ones I've made before) there's still a million reasons this is fucked up you see but I'm just focusing on one aspect rn in this post.
And then there's the adults in fandom who all of a sudden hit my age and all they do is belittle kids and the way they act and there is all of a sudden a Certain Maturity that needs to be upheld for Everyone but Especially Adults.
So on the first point this includes adults who are like "I hate kids!!!! They are so [insert anything negative]" and it includes any comment to meta/writing/art/etc that is like not allowing a younger person in fandom to grow. Like the way I talked as 11 years on the internet was incomprehensible and frankly would've been subject to "omg kids are so cringe ew!" For sure these days, ig I was lucky my online friends were also 11 at the time. Looking at my old fandom Meta posts when I was 15, like I could imagine the way I see adults talking about takes like "oh shit I was worse!" Which is just a bag full of insecurity for me, but I also can't imagine being young in fandom and directly experiencing such critiques all the time. Like does it not bother you, once again? That you don't want to see kids in fandom grow into their creativity and co-exist safely in fandom as they do in public and experience overall and public joy? Why do you hate I mean hateee kids as an adult and why does their joy spark hate and misery in you (you might need therapy or to work that out srsly). And do the effects of your actions not bother you? What do you think you're doing other than silencing the creativity and joy in people and invoking ways to people please or for minors to Act Mature (in reality acting the way these adults want to avoid harassment ofc!) Instead of of course just experiencing joy and fun and community as they would normally.
And that brings me to my last pt of the effects of you hit [adult age] and must Act Mature and not Care About Cringe Fandoms or Watch Cartoons and do anything that would indicate you god forbid Don't Have a Real Job. This is the reality for growing up in fandom its finite once you're 19 no more Cringe of course /s! Because I've been subject to this take before as a criticism, and I've seen essays about how adults who watch Bluey are destroying the world forever, and I can take it because I go to therapy and I'm secure in my own maturity where it matters and joy where it matters. But imagine how younger people in the fandom feel. Like you're basically telling kids "btw once you're at Adult Age you must stop having fun forever and you must have a Real Job (or Education) and stop enjoying Immature things like fandom (even though I am in fandom btw im not a hypocrite saying this) or you're a freak immature adult who will never grow up". Like wow.
Like the conservative and near unnuanced take of to be Mature you need a real job (whatever that means) and to only watch adult shows in a normal manner (again whatever that means) aside, like you're really telling kids to grow up and be insecure. I'm serious! Like of course as you grow up it's important to mature no duh, but with real maturity means realizing there are times to be serious and there are times to enjoy things. Maturity doesn't mean I can never watch bluey god forbid else I have a not real job or become media illiterate as a consequence (esp when actually marketing wise a lot of kids shows are meant to also be entertaining for adults watching with their kids... and lo and behold your media literacy doesn't go away magically the moment the show starts). Like you really want younger ppl in fandom to be miserable and grow up miserable and create a cycle of miserable lest they become Cringe Adults that watch a harmless cartoon and enjoy it.
I'm never good at ending rants like this but conclusion. Get a grip on yourself and insecurities and be really careful how you foster fandom community for yourself but also to those that grow up in these spaces too.
As always add on/send asks/correct me/add nuance/etc. ❤️
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i have come to why i have come to dislike cats/cat ppl in recent years, and unfortunately its the actions of a reckless few that have soured me on a larger community
if a cat does smth with consequences (breaks smth, ruins smth with puke, hurts someone) there's very little... done about it. yeah there are a lot of dog ppl like that too, but ive found theres a greater sentiment of ppl telling others to discipline the dog or remove it from the situation. you dont have to scream at the cat, but maybe keep it out of that room, or dont reinforce the behavior?
not every cat can be trained, true. but im willing to bet many more can than people assume, but cats are allowed to be "assholes" and wont even do the bare minimum often to at least remove the cat from the situation- like for example: if ur kid is having trouble being gentle to the cat. work with the kid to be more gentle with animals, but if the cat is routinely hurting the kid (like drawing blood/biting) a lot of ppl just... keep both the kid and animal in the situation and hope itll work out, leading to both an injured kid AND animal who can do pretty substantial harm to each other
idk this may just be a bias from the kind of people who post online and who i meet irl but it simply feels to me that, even more compared to dogs (who i can acknowledge are often bigger and cause more immediate damage but that doesnt mean we should ignore it with cats) is ppl getting cats because theyre ""easy"" and then are rather irresponsible pet owners, bc cats dont need ""training"" or ""attention beyond pets and cuddles""
(ps if u adopted a rescue cat who came with these issues this isnt about u, this is about ppl getting kittens/younger cats and then just giving up on them)
#fully venty sorry zhdhshs#like my stepmom does a decent job with her cats but ive seen a lot of cats that ppl just REFUSED to try and socialize or do anything with#bc they just see them as quiet requirement-less affectionate machines or haha funny asshole#nah theyre animals with needs and can do harm to others u and themselves#so no. i dont like cats. but i do think they deserve more Real respect as animals with needs than they get
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People become vegetarians for a variety of reasons. Some do it to alleviate animal suffering, others because they want to pursue a healthier lifestyle. Still others are fans of sustainability or wish to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. No matter how much their carnivorous friends might deny it, vegetarians have a point: cutting out meat delivers multiple benefits. And the more who make the switch, the more those perks would manifest on a global scale. But if everyone became a committed vegetarian, there would be serious drawbacks for millions, if not billions, of people. “It’s a tale of two worlds, really,” says Andrew Jarvis of Colombia’s International Centre for Tropical Agriculture. “In developed countries, vegetarianism would bring all sorts of environmental and health benefits. But in developing countries there would be negative effects in terms of poverty.”
'if widespread animal cruelty and exploitation end, poor ppl will suffer :(' is a legitimately retarded take. feels like something you'd hear before slavery was abolished -- 'if slavery is abolished poor hard working plantation owners won't be able to make a living :('
but black people could advocate for themselves. animals cannot. not that ppl would be ethical enough to avoid animal products on a large scale anyway.
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Jarvis and other experts at the centre hypothesised what might happen if meat dropped off the planet’s menu overnight.
First, they examined climate change. Food production accounts for one-quarter to one-third of all anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions worldwide, and the brunt of responsibility for those numbers falls to the livestock industry. Despite this, how our dietary choices affect climate change is often underestimated. In the US, for example, an average family of four emits more greenhouse gases because of the meat they eat than from driving two cars – but it is cars, not steaks, that regularly come up in discussions about global warming.
“Most people don’t think of the consequences of food on climate change,” says Tim Benton, a food security expert at the University of Leeds. “But just eating a little less meat right now might make things a whole lot better for our children and grandchildren.”
Marco Springmann, a research fellow at the Oxford Martin School’s Future of Food programme, tried to quantify just how much better: he and his colleagues built computer models that predicted what would happen if everyone became vegetarian by 2050. The results indicate that – largely thanks to the elimination of red meat – food-related emissions would drop by about 60 percent. If the world went vegan instead, emissions declines would be around 70 percent.
“When looking at what would be in line with avoiding dangerous levels of climate change, we found that you could only stabilise the ratio of food-related emissions to all emissions if everyone adopted a plant-based diet,” Springmann says. “That scenario is not very realistic – but it highlights the importance that food-related emissions will play in the future.”
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“There are over 3.5 billion domestic ruminants on earth, and tens of billions of chickens produced and killed each year for food,” says Ben Phalan, who researches the balance between food demand and biodiversity at the University of Cambridge. “We’d be talking about a huge amount of economic disruption.”
if 3.5 billion people were reproductive and domestic slaves, we would be horrified. and yet
enjoy the next zoonotic pandemic you lil aholes
https://chuangcn.org/2020/02/social-contagion/
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I have a weird take on AI
lemme just preface.
I DO NOT BLANKET CONDONE THE USE OF AI ART
however, I have some friends who get mad every time they see AI anywhere. and genuinely... it's not that deep. example: I sent a Sonic Adventure AI voice meme to the meme chat (meme is below) and they acted like it was directly harming ppl for existing.
my take on this is simple. If what you're creating isn't taking jobs then you're free to go about it. using the above meme as an example: who is harmed in the making of this? who's work is taken, truly?
so let's start with the "voice acting". Q1a) what do you think is the chance that you can get the OG VA of *Cop On The Street*, Sonic, Knuckles and Tails from Sonic Adventure 2 to do this meme? Q1b) how much do you think you'd have to pay them to do it? Q2a) other than getting the OG VAs to do the meme what're other options that don't require AI? Q2b) what are the advantages to using AI over those alternatives?
A1a) the chances are very very slim A2b) more money than the average shitposter on tiktok can gather A2a) there are two that I can think of, (lemme know if there are more and I just don't know them) there's sentence mixing1 and hiring an impressionist2 A2b) 1sentence mixing takes a Long Ass Time, and it's viscerally challenging to get them to say (or in this case sing) things that they haven't said (or sung) before. not to mention the fact that you're still stealing the voice of the actors 2the amount of money it takes to hire at least one impressionist to do this joke is still more than the pennies it takes to get an AI voice to do it. then you have to put it through a filter to make it sound like it's from Sonic Adventure 2.
and let's move on to other things. this won't take as long, I promise. 1) the background music is stolen directly from another artist. and somehow I doubt that ppl are upset when ppl steal music for memes. 2) the editing of the game's cutscenes is not AI done, obviously. They are at least editing scenes that have no connection together to make it funny/make sense. or they're taking assets from the game and moving them around in engine to make the scenes do what they want. either way that's hella impressive.
now I have one more thing to say about AI. There are some cool things you can do with just AI that ppl just can't easily replicate. especially when you're working on your own. there's this great TikTok account called "The Ministry of Latent Places" that uses a spooky AI generated voice and some uncanny images generated with AI to tell a story about a shadowy group documenting anomalous things that happen around the world. From what I know it's just the one guy making it. The AI voice and "art" are using to create an uncanny valley sense that you just Cannot Get as a single person without a ton of money to spend on animators, artists, and other things. it's the only example I have of this but it can't be the only account doing that
TLDR: AI can be cool and shouldn't immediately be used to shut down someone's work.
#sonic the hedgehog#sonic adventure 2#ai#ai art#persona 3#ministry of latent places#hot take#ted talks#in defense of ai#tiktok#I still don't think I'm using tags right please help me ;-;
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The more pressure there is on creators to tag/warn (aka rhetoric like "its okay if ppl write [blank] as long as its tagged" rhetoric... discord servers that have heavy CW rules... comments/asks requesting certain topics to be tagged...), the less interest I have in actually tagging anything whatsoever.
Movies are a different beast perhaps, but, as an avid reader, I've never stumbled across anything unexpectedly dark or triggering in a book or a fic. The author's opening passages or chapters have always prepared me for the eventual nature of their story. The style, the tone, the synopsis, the foreshadowing — they have never failed to indicate an oncoming scene descriptive or explicit of something dark or uncomfortable. When I stumble across those preparative breadcrumbs the author has left me, it's true that I sometimes feel temporary discomfort... but I'll hit the back button or close the book or exit the app, and that extremely mild unease is soon forgotten. (If it is not forgotten, then I am grateful for the reminder to schedule my therapy appointment or spend time with a friend or find some other kind of tactic to address such unhealthy rumination. And even if I cannot address it, I'm aware that any attempt to avoid it will only worsen my tolerance for uncomfortable encounters in the long term.)
I can sort of understand the pressure in some scenarios. Perhaps a discord server would like to be inclusive of minors without legal repercussions. Perhaps a user is constantly filling a popular tag with triggering material without any warnings or tags. However, there are times when it makes less sense. A discord server dedicated exclusively to darker themes (especially with a small userbase) needn't mandate the use of trigger warnings. A tumblr user needn't tag every mention of "blood" or "vomitting" just to satisfy the possibility of one or two uncomfortable followers.
I support tags. I support warnings. I support information.
As long as it's voluntary.
The use of warnings and categories and tags and 18+ pages is the solution to any need for censorship. However, when such things become an expectation, rather than a choice, this wonderful solution so easily veers straight back to the slippery slope of censorship. "Fic authors should tag for noncon" so easily becomes "authors who don't tag for noncon aren't allowed to write noncon at all," which so easily becomes "authors who don't tag for noncon are abusers themselves." And throughout the process, the definition of what constitutes "noncon" will expand and expand and expand. In this way, the impetus is shifted right back from the reader (who can curate their fandom experience) to the author (who becomes responsible for reader discomfort). I am hardly the first to talk about this, nor is this the best way I've seen it described — but it is a problem that concerns me deeply.
In our interpersonal relationships, I think most of us do understand the difference and agree on the issue. For example, I am triggered by animal death or harm. If I see too much related to the subject, I will be caught in a depressive episode that can last hours or days or weeks. I avoid movies that involve animals, and I religiously check relevant questions on doesthedogdie.com. However, if my friend comes to me for comfort because her pet cat is dying, I do not shriek at her for not considering my trigger or warning me first. Hell, I don't even ask her to stop. I sit there, and I listen, and I support her, because even though it's a trigger for me, I realize that sometimes in life we can't choose the subjects we encounter. We curate our experiences the times in which we can to make room for the times in which we can't.
AO3's option for "creator chooses not to archive warnings" is not a mistake; it's a feature. And as a creator existing in the current state of fandom, I consider using it more and more every day. Your discomfort with my writing's existence is not my problem, and my writing warns for itself.
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Long ask, got a little carried away. Sorry not Sorry >w<".
I do want to point out that equating shipping funny scugs with actual crimes is very drastic. Like, shipping discourse shouldn't go there unless you seriously believe that X ship is causing real world harm. Don't compare furries to pedophiles or zoophilia or incest. I feel like I shouldn't have to even explain why that is offensive. Do you seriously think that someone who thinks Artificer is hot is going to, like, turn around and fuck their dog? Do you really think that it'll even make someone more likely to accept someone fucking their dog? And I'm saying all of this because making drastic statements like this actually *is* harmful. It degrades the meaning of the terms and it justifies violence against a group that doesn't deserve it. And this part comes from the fact that most of the furries I do know are gay and/or autistic, but seeing ppl equate being into furry shit, which often isn't 100% about sex in the first place, doesn't sit right with me.
It also distracts from talking about actually harmful fandom ships; in this instance I mean fandom (ambiguous) because Rain World's fandom hasn't gotten any popular ship dynamics that are genuinely harmful. And, genuinely harmful ships is a more complicated topic than just "X ship bad" since ships are going to be interpreted by a ton of different people and taken in a ton of different directions. And the components that make a ship harmful can be complicated, but I think it usually comes down to the normalization of behavior. Like, that's why shipping a kid with an adult is always bad - the more normalized that is, the more that idea as gross or taboo gets eroded. Thus, the less likely someone is to respond appropriately to actual pedophilia. In this hypothetical, people shipping the adult and child aren't inherently pedophiles, but they would be contributing to the issue of pedophilia and creating a safe space for that behavior. So, again, I ask the people who are throwing the terms "zoophilia" around like candy, do you seriously believe that lewding slugcats creates a safe space for people who actually fuck real animals? Do you seriously believe that lewding slugcats erodes the barriers and taboos we have around fucking real animals?
I think Moon/Pebbles ship is a good example of what I mean. The reason incestuous ships are bad is because they normalize incest, which is its own can of worms that I'm frankly not equipped to address. While I could've sworn that Moon and Pebbles canonically see themselves as siblings and the one time I saw a Moon/Pebbles shipfic it was 100% intended as incest, that doesn't quite make it fair to pass judgement on everyone who likes the ship. Is the ship problematic? A little, maybe? But that's because the ship is prone to the same issues I said about incest, down to people talking around the fact that the two characters fucking are related, BUT Rain World is a game that very heavily leans on players making assumptions about the world based on scarce info, especially pre-Downpour. There's a ton of canon information that's easily missed. Like, the idea that Moon and Pebbles are siblings comes from their physical proximity and Moon being titled "Big Sis Moon." I personally like to imagine that everyone in the local group calls her that. This doesn't make ships like Lilypad and Eclipse a problem unless someone were to write them as incest. Likewise, someone could reasonably play the game and just not see Moon and Pebbles as siblings. In which case, shipping them isn't incest because it's not written as incest. Therefore, it's inappropriate to imply that anyone shipping these two characters is into incest. And I think Moon/Pebbles is the closest commonish RW ship to actually being a problem. And it's OK to be put off by the ship , I'm personally put off by it. But accusing people of being things that they are not isn't ok.
And, take a more popular ship - Sunstone. It has the capacity to be written in a harmful way. And there are plenty of fics where their relationship is written to be unhealthy, bringing up canon points to support this characterization. That doesn't make the ship inherently harmful. Wholesome Sunstone and Toxic Sunstone are both interpretations of an interpretation. Not to mention that Toxic Sunstone isn't even an inherently harmful interpretation to make art or writing for. There's a lot of value to be had exploring this kind of dynamic. On fact, fiction is probably the safest way one could possibly explore that. While it is possible to use Sunstone to glorify abuse, that isn't representative of the ship because the premise doesn't imply glorifying abuse.
This is what I mean when I say don't hurl serious accusations at people over ships. Even ships that have a tendency to be iffy. Even ships where the majority of content you've seen of them is just straight up disgusting. And this especially applies to Rain World, where canon is loose and easy to miss at best. Like, even going to the most concretely problem ship possible in the game, Surv/Monk, you can read the game's events as them being close childhood friends from the same colony. There's nothing explicitly calling them siblings, and I think that takes a reasonable assumption to make, especially if you're someone who doesn't pay mind to external sources of information. So, don't throw serious accusations at people unless you're being genuine about it, please.
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hi mello ! i’m feeling a bit bold (as far as bold goes considering i’m asking anonymously) i wanted to ask abt your opinion considering how yk like usually nsfw pages tend to strictly ban minors (rightfully so ofc) but then write content of characters who are minors aged up, and idk why but to me aging up the character never seemed right cuz doing so gives the space for others (like those ppl that would justify sexualizing young characters and then say ‘oh but they’re like this dragon hybrid thing so they’re actually 9000 years old) to use this as an excuse to make said nsfw content,,
but yeah,, no hate ofc !!!! just wanted to explore the reasoning behind aging up characters cuz i don’t fully understand it so i wanna hear someone else’s opinion and you seemed to be the most approachable
no pressure tho, if you don’t wanna answer that’s totally fine you don’t owe it to anyone x
take care !!
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hm. well, it’s because i literally do not give a fuck LOL
to me, it is drawings. they don’t have feelings, they don’t breathe, they aren’t human. they were made up. so, if they were made up to be a certain age by someone, what is stoping me from changing that age? they aren’t real…so idk man it just doesn’t seem immoral to me.
just like i age down characters for my big brother au, or i wrote a shit ton of characters as literal hybrids. it’s not real, so i can change characters in the way i see fit because i am an author. you are x reader fics, which in no way will ever be real, so i just don’t think that being able to change a characters age will do harm.
so when i see, for example, yuuji itadori, and i think that i am attracted to him, never in my mind does something flash the words “he is a minor” because to me…he isn’t, at least in my fics with him. it’s just the way you interpret it, and that’s what causes the “controversy” on tumblr.
i also see characters in my fics as prototypes? ig u can call it? with the same example, my yuuji x reader fics, he would look like yuuji itadori, act like yuuji itadori, but he isn’t. he isn’t written by gege, he isn’t animated by mappa. he is written by me, which means i have the power over him to do what i seen fit. if that is to write smut/romance, then he will be a adult, because I am an adult and i made this au. although neither of them are not real, they are two separate entities of each other
andddd this is completely different than minors irl. a drawing of something is completely different than a human being that is under the age of 18. tbh if you can’t separate fiction versus reality then…no offense but i do not see whoever you are as an intelligent being LOL. but that sounds mean, i am not bashing anyone who doesn’t agree with aging characters up, but it is the same people who bash on this who read/interact with dark content. like all of the sudden they can seprate fiction and reality when it regards to yandere…..
but like i said in the beginning, i don’t give a fuck what people do with my work.. if you want to interpret a character as a child, that’s disgusting, but it’s not my fault? if your mind is to think of a character as a child when reading smutty things, then you are sick in the head, but it’s not like my readings spurred it on. they will always be like that, regardless of what they are reading.
i write (95% of the time) for myself. i don’t see the character as a child, and honestly that’s all that matters to me at least. i can’t stop the small amount of people from having pedophilic thoughts about my work, but to be honest, i am not going to let that ruin my fun. i think about myself firstly — i am not a good person anon
hope this didn’t come across as rude, and when i say “you” i am not regarding you as yourself, ig i’m talking to people who shit on others who age characters up. not the people who disagree with it, and remain silent (respectful) about it
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Speedwagon: JJBA’s First ‘Woman’
aka a commentary on the treatment of Speedwagon by the fandom, and how it’s managed to fully feminize him in a unique way.
Speedwagon is a main ally in JJBA Part 1. He’s Jonathan’s best friend and yknow does a bunch of shit for him, including creating the Speedwagon Foundation.
Now, what I really want to talk about is how fans treat Speedwagon. The main ‘joke’ of the fandom—which is for some reason both long running and ongoing—is that Speedwagon is the ‘#1 Waifu’ of both JJBA and anime in general. Now, in case u somehow don’t know, a ‘waifu’ is a female anime character that people simp for/consider ‘wife material’ I guess. It’s a term generally used by greasy guys who live in their moms basement. A good example of a ‘waifu’ would be Hinata from Naruto.
So already, this idea of Speedwagon being a waifu feminizes him an intense amount. I mean, it’s literally grouping him together w a bunch of otherwise female anime girls. However, this ‘joke’ also branches into simply using female terms for Speedwagon. Wife, mommy, best girl, and terms along those lines are commonly used to describe him (who I would like to remind everyone is a MAN…)
“Caitie, it’s just a joke. Why is this a problem?”
Well, first of all, it’s just unfunny. It’s the same level of unfunny as when ppl include tequila Joseph or Bruno in a pic of “hot anime girls.” Secondly, part of why I find this so harmful is another factor. Most people agree that Speedwagon is into Jonathan.
It’s not like it was much of a secret. However, people use Speedwagon as a way to joke about gay men. They call him a woman, wife, and overall feminize him the same way homophobes treat actual gay men.
People also use him as a way to joke about other people being gay. This joke isn’t really harmful but it sure is annoying
But the thing that really takes the feminization of Speedwagon to the next level is the way the fandom boils him down to what he’s done for Jonathan—the main (and male) protagonist. Many fandom spaces do this. They only treat female characters “well” if they think she’s been helpful enough or has done enough for the male mc.
I’ve also seen people compare Erina and Speedwagon in a way that’s very reminiscent of arguments like Sakura vs Hinata.
This is what I think makes Speedwagon’s feminization so different from other characters that are also feminized. For example, Noriaki Kakyoin from JJBA Part 3. (Or Bruno, or Doppio, ect, ect) Kakyoin is feminized in a way that fetishizes gay men, as it’s always in ship art/fan fictions with him and Jotaro. Kakyoin is depicted as weak, small, girly, and just overall the female love interest. However, he is still a man. Why? Because this is fetish art drawn by women who are into gay men that fit heteronormative dynamics.
Meanwhile, Speedwagon isn’t generally depicted as small or feminine. Yet, people genuinly act like he’s a woman. They compare him to Erina, they use feminine terms for him, and use him to be their little gay joke.
Anyways I’m done. This is a silly rant but I’m passionate abt it. Leave Speedwagon (and Erina tbh) ALONE!! He is not ur waifu. He is not ur wife. He is just a guy!!
#jjba#jojos bizzare adventure diamond is unbreakable#speedwagon#robert e speedwagon#commentary#meta#gay#queer
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i do believe that armchair psychology is kind of shitty n omatter who its being directed at andi try to stick to the principles that i have but you know... whenever i see shit like this i really cant help but think that this gross shit theyre posting about wanting to do or seen done to children and animals is probably shit that happened to them as kids i always see the "this is how i cope im a victim" argument and yeah it's not even uncommon knowledge that people who experience sexual abuse esp as children sometimes walk out with a contorted / romanticized version of what happened. it's a defense mechanism in a way. it helps diminish the pain by... i guess turning it on its head in a way. and the way i see it there's always implicit self-blame that comes with that sort of thought. people act like sexuality exists in a bubble and a lot of "pro-p4ra" ppl try to paint it as some sort of primal meaningless thing but it is more than that. sexuality is as complicated as any other... human emotional response if that makes any sense and one's own insecurities and trauma can manifest in a person's sexuality in a deeply unhealthy and harmful way. for example someone with extremely low self esteem might romanticize being raped because they think it's the only way someone will ever desire them sexually or because they believe it's something that needs to happen to "fix" them. so i don't completely reject that point bc i can see where it comes from BUT. again. look at sex cults, look at people who groom children online, look at men who trap women in car dates so they can pressure them into sex, look at men who try to get women drunk / high so they can fuck them, etc... to act like sexuality exists in a bubble where it cannot influence someone's behavior towards others is just flat out wrong and its just fucking stupid in addition to being dangerous. lots of people who go on to become rapists & child molesters were raped as children that is also an objectively true fact. and i don't believe it follows a much different plot than people who get the shit beaten out of them by their parents and go on to beat their own kids. it has to do with a lack of introspection, a lack of self-esteem, self-blame, romanticizing what happened to diminish its impact on your psyche (well i deserved for my parents to beat me because i did this, it was my fault for doing this, they didnt understand what they were doing so whatever), etc etc. this is like total word salad at this point but my point is that even though i can see in a weird fucked up way how being a victim could lead someone to this place i also dont have a lot of fucking pity for them bc they are grown ass adults with sentience and a conscience and still choosing to behave like this. this shit will just lead to more kids (+ adults too!) getting hurt and honestly i don't believe there's any way they don't know that at 30 years of age. yeah these people were probably victims but now they are victimizers and people need to recognize that
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the surprisedentistry post is about how a lot of people on tumblr dot com would wholeheartedly believe outright absurd stuff regardless of credence or evidence because they wanna be perceived as being on the “right” side of things (examples: the mitski child slave accusations, the various misinfo posts that got spread back in the day like Bird In Chocolate Fountain being denounced as animal cruelty even though it was from an Adam Sandler movie, horse dildo being passed off as the arm of a burn victim, a pic of heath ledger in a cut scene from Batman being passed off as a pic of some “brave veteran” who had scars that everyone wanted to support, etc)
it’s just saying that ppl on here will literally believe goofy shit uncritically and will be upset at people who have even a little bit of skepticism towards it bc they wanna be seen as virtuous and supportive
sorry for how long this was but yeah I hope it helps
I got that bit, but I was specifically trying to talk about people who have fallen for one or more of the currently ongoing moral panics. Those have been so much more effective at convincing people to fall for the "Think of the Children" argument that all moral panics, including the satanic panic, rely on. The comparison of people falling for less harmful misinformation on Tumblr forgets the idea that sometimes people lying on the internet are lying about what they believe, too, (see Sharks are smooth).
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I was reading a HORRIBLE thing yesterday about a BBC investigation that busted an international ring of sick motherfuckers who torture baby monkeys to death and film it to sell the videos to other sick motherfuckers, right
And one of the dudes who got caught, his File Photo is posing in front of his big trump flag and his confederate flag
And I came to a sort of revelation RE all applicable meanings of ‘the cruelty is the point’
Bc as it applies to bad people In Power I always thought of it as, they want people passively suffering for their transgressions so that it will be an example and everybody will fall in line or be so dispirited and beat down they can’t put up a fight anymore
But then I read about this piece of hellbound shit with his big person sized trump flag in the background taking requests for hammers, pliers…and thinking, there is probably another applicable meaning, as in, no…they actually get off on being able to actively cause suffering, torture, death, because they can. Because the victim is helpless. And the trump flag is there to remind everybody that if the fash win….it won’t be animals. It won’t be animals.
And then I was thinking about all the ppl who’d improve the word by dying…and the thing is, like, if I had a free shot at trump, mcconnell, musk, desantis…yes absolutely, I’d take the shot. But I wouldn’t cut PARTS off of them and sell the videos for profit because the point of taking out ppl like that is to stop the harm they are doing to others, not to laugh at their inability to escape torture.
That is the fundamental difference. Even if two people on that sub are ~rich people~ that…that does not mean I’m going to cheer at the thought of them suffocating and freezing to death and KNOWING they are going to die and there is nothing they or anyone else can do about it. If that’s a bad take, the…damn, I don’t want to have a good take.
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TEEN WOLF HEADCANON TIMELINE
Hitlers family was patriarchy hunter fam.
Hitler had illegit bebe (gerard) w french woman who was an argent during? End of? War
Gerard resented women being in charge over him.
Chris not vicious/bloodthirsty and brown haired.
Kate vicious/bloodthirsty n easily manipulated by daddy n blonde/blue eyed.
Didnt have much to do w allison cuz coloring and didnt display his desired vicious traits.
But was easily manipulated later so worthy of some time n attention when he had no kate.
Gerard molested kate, turned her to pedo, groomed her
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Talia--born 1960
Deaton--born 1963
Marin-- born 1975 (12 yrs after deaton)
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Phoenixend--
I was thinking about your post with human papa Hale/Talia and it turned into a hc about them being the prototype sterek with Talia being this serious, regal alpha-in-the-making and this clumsy disaster of a human boy who's just a big ol' simp and was like "yeah I'm gonna marry that woman and take HER last name" idk i just had to share because your posts make my day
Ohheytherebigbadwolf--
That is my exact hc for them XD Like, Derek takes after his mom in more than just looks, aight?
Papa Hale wasn't even human-but-slightly-to-the-left like Lydia or questionably magical like Stiles, he was literally just Some Dude. Considering the decade in which he and Talia met, he was probably a stoner who was too blazed to be bothered by his gf turning furry. First time he saw her shift, he was just like, "Neato!" And Talia immediately went, "This one and no other."
Cue Nana Hale's well-meant parental despair like, "You're turning down eight suitors from established packs for that?!" Like, no, mom, you don't understand, he said my beta shift was neat and called my eyes pretty, and he thinks it's cool I can pick him up, I want this one.
Obvi, he quit smoking once Laura happened, but even then, he's just Chill. He vibes with the weird. He's like Gomez Addams. His wife is the most awesome wonderful fantastic woman ever and the greatest Alpha and the bestest mom, and his kids are just as incredible as she is, I love them so much, wanna see pictures?
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NEMETON: northern California, Greenland, western Europe, Egypt (or Sudan), China, and Siberia in 6x16 map. Greenland, northern Africa, Toulouse in France, Zhengzhou in China, Logashkino in Siberia, and Brasília in Brazil.
NEMETON--Mikaelsons tree was also nemeton
Nemeton--both deaton and alex argent cut Nemeton down for money and power
Talia's dad fought Alexander at Nemeton n bit but died, making Talia alpha, leading to Deaton able to convince her that if Nemeton was healthy n not corrupted the hunter wouldn't have gotten that far
Alexander argent bitten May 3, 1977
NEMETON--Nemeton a branch of world tree
According to Chris Argent, a Nemeton is a sacred space used by Druids for various rituals.
He says druids picked a large, older tree in a grove to represent the center of the world.
Many believed that cutting or harming the "world tree" would bring severe problems like fires, plagues, strife, “death and destruction of all kinds” to surrounding villages. (Visionary)
Druid Emissary Alan Deaton explains that the power of the Nemeton is like a magnet that draws supernatural creatures to itself like a beacon. (Alpha Pact)
WOLF--Wolves connected to world trees per spellwork from beginning to allow werewolf and not just wolf
WOLF--Full shift wolf is sign of punishment. Spell allowing human shift removed. Most cases.
WOLF--Will eventually lead to all wolf all the time if issues not corrected
WOLF--Wolfs must protect nemeton
NEMETON--Nemton murdered when cut down
NEMETON--Spirit of murdered nemeton is The Hollow. Needs to be moved sometimes. Requires symbolic sacrifice.
NEMETON: the tree should have grown back. It was deliberately NOT ALLOWED to over the years as we see example of when sprout is snatched on screen
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What if Weres also came about because some ppl were closer to their spirit animals more than others and they eventually got so good at connecting that they took on traits?
As generations happened, it was typical for similar spirit-bondeds to become partners/spouses/whatev AND each generation the newest youngsters took the basics from the previous generations and added to it. Expounded upon it until eventually it became a part of their genetics? Like evolution, sorta??
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Moms carry higher percentage likelihood gonna be born a were than dads do. Like 75 to men's 50? Ish?
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Laura--born 1984
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Jackson's parents run off road by hunters?
He was human kid of weres?
Peter n the woman in car are bio parents?
Talia chose Malia's name and adoptive family on purpose.
(t)ALIA/(m)ALIA T(ate)
She left what she thought was a clever fucking clue.
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Argent pendant is hexed/spelled to enhance natural allure to hide the intensifying and ever increasing corruption of the wearers psyche. A sometimes slow process, the speed at which the malicious infection grows within is dependent on the size of the wearers naturally occurring unhealthy darkness. Also enhances supes naturally occurring desire for wearer but only if supe already has desire for wearer.
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Deucalion--took out his 1st pack when marin in last yr college
prompted her choice of councilor/therapist masters while he healed/built new pack
then he killed 2nd pack and is how became alpha of alphas
Gerard placed spell on Deucalion via neurotoxin delivery system that had side effect of blindness when mixed with mt ash
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The Beacon Hills Nemeton remained dormant, powerless for many years until Derek Hale killed his high school girlfriend Paige among the tree's roots. This unintentional blood sacrifice powered the tree enough to allow Druid Emissary Julia Baccari to survive after being attacked and left for dead by Alpha Werewolf Kali. (The Overlooked)
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Stiles had boa constrictor as pet (mom prolly encouraged/helped)
Stiles n rents til claudia dies. (Second grade ish.)
Noah drinks.
Coworkers get him to stop.
Scott n sm Roxie dog, attacked by rabid doberman.
Roxie died to protect. Bloody leash in hospital.
Asthma attack. Likely had allergies as kid n stressful attack caused. Once happens, avalanche.
Scott n rents til stairs. (Elementary school.)
Stiles knew, so was after met.
McCalls divorce.
Scott lives with rafe.
Stiles n Scott 'bffs'--on stiles' side at least.
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Hale wards didn't work against kate n hunters n arson n ill intent. Why not? Deaton's greedy, skeevy butt
Deaton helped hunters at hale fire
Peter hit with spell (while in house as seen in flashbacks) that initiated w/fire and ended w fire
Kept prisoner in his own brain, occasional slip out to plot for survival, reminiscent of stiles while possessed
Puppeteered, not in control, not technically a wolf so is how escaped fire w/mt ash AND why healing didnt kick in
FIRE--Wolfsbane was used in fire and held back healing as well
FLARE--Laura n peter had disconnect b4 fire so easy/relief to abandon peter
PETER--Nurse jennifer was assigned as nurse but practiced magic.
She was Deatons student?
Got peter and started using to power spells because werewolf stamina/energy and connection to Nemeton via hale blood pact with land and tree.
Like a battery
Then spelled his healing to suuuper slow?
tho inhaled wolfabane and mt ash in burns didn't help him either
PETER--Nurse jennifer sold permission for hunters to come trophyphoto peter
Perhaps kept dosed w wolfsbane to slow healing as well. Just to be safe.
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Julia baccari did deer spiral to set up her own chess board for revenge
Was still in area all that time, but had to recover and then rebuild magic and sacrifice enough for glamour, but couldn't do in BH or would possibly prevent alpha pack showing up
Deaton alerts laura
Argents arrive for move prep
Argents house hunted (lol even houses aren't safe fr yhem) n xferred Allison before winter break so could start 1st day back of spring semester
Peter kills laura, not cuts in half. Is hunter MO
Argents check out hale property just to be safe
Find female body with werewolf claw marks
Cut body in half to make sure wont yurn
Leave to get Allison n move in
Derek arrives in bh
Jogger finds laura
gogo teen wolf power on!
Scott bitten cuz smelled like stiles and was also connection yo stiles
Peter chose lydia for banshee AND connection to stiles
Explains peter offering stiles bite--was lucid moment
Stiles' spark would have burned away yhe strings/the spell
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Derek loves 90's alternative
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Tyler Lockwood and danny mahealani are cousins
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Advanced healing: each healing causes weres to age more, hence satomi's age looking the same and Peter aging so much in 6 yrs and Derek getting older in first season.
Which goes with power thing for mothers per later discussed cuz Malia
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Kids didn't hafta drown for LOCATION spell
Power of three blood locator spell woulda worked
Supes can find Nemeton in supe-skin
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Juliadarach burned all of spell, n mt ash out of Deucalion
neurotoxin was long gone/was just delivery system anyways
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Noshiko was over 800 yrs old when summoned nogi
Knew better
Doubtful 1st time noshiko did this
Wasn't 1st time loved in all that time
What if nogi was influencing things before he got loose?
Like how it seemed nemeton was reaching out for stiles.
Deaton and/or Talia's actions/inactions?
It mite explain why nemeton didnt grow until that one tiny sprout that was pulled.
Nogi draining the power reserves
Why was nogi phys form a housefly when is a fox?
Only oni were lightning bugs (agents of order)
Nogi was oni and she took his spark with way she summoned him, so altered him (Agent of chaos)
It's why he was attracted to stiles
Stiles is Spark
He kept saying 'nevwr trust a fox'
He was never in fox form (sorta makes sense tho cuz inhabited a non-shifter body) or w fox aura
Maybe nogitsune's hungers are determined by those who call them.
Like noshiko called one for fear, chaos and pain.
Maybe someone else would call one for plague-like reasons.
Maybe one is more of a burn it all type.
Maybe the foxes that are called are determined by who calls them.
Not like kira who was born by human ways.
But like noshiko coulda been called down by someone who had lost a kid or had a bunch of miscarriages n wanted to have a child.
One they wouldn't have to fear losing to death
Thunder kitsune level under celestial but related cuz made w human 'lesser' being
If had made kitsune with other celestial, woulda been celestial kira
Sooo what IF... Nogi was seen differently/understood
Fox: mischievous n clever n playful trickster rite?
But even tho they say he was the absurd age he was...
They also said kiras mom made him or summoned him or whatever rite?
So what if the way he was back at the camp and as voidstiles wasn't his natural behavior??
Im seeing a couple possibilities. It could be the WAY she did whatever corrupted or cursed or altered him. (My fave theory so far)
Or she had summoned him one way at the camp, and he woulda been back to himself when released later but absorbed all the negative/polluted magic while trapped?
Maybe by accident or maybe someone set it up that way
And the way he reacted seems rather self protective and kinda pissed off at the hand hes dealt while infected with dirty magic?
Or negative magic that clouds his thoughts or whatev?
So maybe he was trying to keep stiles safe and whole in the only way he could, with that white room?Maybe he needed stiles to figure it out n fix it? Its not like deaton wouldve if he was a reason for it.
And maybe the ones he killed he saw something in them that needed to die? Either because they were bad/evil or because the negative magic felt a threat from something in them?
If it was that he got tainted with the icky magic, maybe thats deaton related?
Like deaton felt the magic/power at the nemeton n thot that's where it came from but he was using nogi as a filter?
Like laundering money but filtering n 'cleaning' magic?
The stump gained further power when Scott, Stiles Stilinski, and Allison Argent performed a druid ritual to locate their parents.
The three students' sacrificial "deaths" fully charged the Nemeton and it is now broadcasting at full power to all the supernatural elements within the Teen Wolf Universe.
In More Bad Than Good, someone pulls out a freshly grown piece of the tree which causes fireflies to form into humanoid beings.
Noshiko Yukimura reveals that the ritual done by Scott, Stiles, and Allison did to power up the Nemeton also released the Nogitsune she had imprisoned there. (The Fox and the Wolf)
Noshiko lied about their deaths powering up Nemeton
Doesn't make sense, as doesn't seem to have gotten any more powerful
Dr. Valack also explained that recharging the Nemeton also brought the Dread Doctors to Beacon Hills.
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The Triskelion Box: Wood cut from the tree and objects made of that wood still retain some of the Nemeton's power.
Deaton used wood from the Nemeton to fashion a wooden jar, a cylindrical box, to hold Talia Hale's claws.
further proof he murdered the nemeton for his own gain
If Nemeton had actually been corrupt/needed cut down (even for natural reasons such as rot-tho pretty sure magic would keep healthy), you would NOT make magic powerful containers from it
At some point after that, the box fell into the hands of The Calaveras.
Derek, Peter, and Braeden find it hidden in a large chest made of Mountain Ash and filled with sawdust from the same type tree.
It is clearly stored in such a way as to keep supernatural creatures out.
The top of the cylinder is decorated with a carving of the triskelion (or Triskele) symbol, a popular werewolf symbol.
Inside there are five circular recesses, at the time of its discovery each held a single werewolf claw. (More Bad Than Good)
The box seems designed to be used to apply the claws as well.
Each claw sits in its own recess and when Peter's hand is jammed inside - it lines up perfectly to embed the claws under his own.
Because of the residual power, the box is used to contain the Nogitsune spirit in its housefly form. (The Divine Move)
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So noshiko appears young in glashbacks rite? Then older during the show.
Ppl seem to think its weird but i think its cuz she had kira.
Similar to malias bio mom, power or something supernatural happens when they give life to a new supernatural creature
Like injuries that age them
Noshiko a liar 'fox n wolf don't get along'
her bestie was satomi.
She's almost as old as nogi and yet thought she could be possessed?
but if cant possess a werewolf then he cant possess her cuz shes a fox
Doesn't make sense
Had to be a human or non-shift/non-animal supe.
She woulda known that if she knew enuf to summon him
An oni is a kind of yōkai, demon, orc, ogre, or troll in Japanese folklore. Oni are mostly known for their fierce and evil nature manifested in their propensity for murder and cannibalism. Notwithstanding their evil reputation, oni possess intriguingly complex aspects that cannot be brushed away simply as evil. They are typically portrayed as hulking figures with one or more horns growing out of their heads.[2] Stereotypically, they are conceived of as red, blue, black, yellow, or white-colored, wearing loincloths of tiger pelt, and carrying iron kanabō clubs.[2] They are creatures which instill fear and feelings of danger due to their grotesque outward appearance, their wild and sometimes strange behavior and their powers.
They are predominantly male but can be female. Females becoming oni has been attributed to them being overcome with grief or jealousy.
Noshiko n nogi half siblings. He oni prince by parentage. She lesser creature by her parentage. But she has tails, able to call upon oni. Would know the secrets of how to steal his spark.
Plus why call specifically for possession of a 'demon'? Its not like she had never been in that type of sitch before in her almost 1000 yrs because humans are utter assholes.
And she didn't ever fall so hard in lurve before that at her age?
Also? Zero to defcon 100 million? Really?!
Yes instinct is to survive, but human is supposed to only be a form she takes.
So she woulda been okay.
Plus, u dont automatically bring possession by a demon as ur go-to.
Oh and since she n satomi couldn't n didn't ward the Nogitsune, how did she know he was released?
Its not like the kitsunes are all magically lojacked to each other, which wouldn't matter anyway because he stayed in bh.
So did Deaton tell her he let him out?
Or did she realize how long he could be held for?
His spark was dimmed n it brightened when he escaped?
Or it moved towards his direction?
And she was scared of him n scared to fight him. Why? Shes almost as old as him n they both in human form.
If u only have 9 tails and takes u more than 1000 yrs to get them (her box of tails only about half full) then why would u use up 2 at the beginning of a problem, especially to only get 4 oni
Plus the fact that all other kitsune seem to be both good n bad, so why wouldn't nogi?
There cant be a purely bad entity without there being a totally good entity.
Nature (even supernatural) doesn't work that way.
There is a balance.
Equal and opposite.
And we only have HER word she is celestial/heaven kitsune, which humans equate to good.
She didn't display much good tho soooo...
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Claudia had magic
Her FTD a result of being born or newborn when Nemeton cut down?
1977 when cut down
Sheriff did 2 tours n was army ranger? I think?
They say his bday 65/75
1965 would mean he was 11 or 12 yrs older than her, but he seems guy who would've waited yo be older n settled before marriage/kids
Also works with the abuse he suffered. Lots of abused don't want kids or not sure they do
Def went to college after army tho
Is where/when met Claudia
She woulda been legal (if barely) when she n sheriff met n married
Then 26 when died, when stiles 7? 8?
It reached out and her gift activated
But it also damaged her n caused FTD or what looked like it. Whichever.
Maybe her power was linked to it?
OR, when we think of how the nemeton reached out for stiles, it reached out for claudia, and in draining her magic or tainting her magic somehow (maybe because she didnt know she had magic) thems the results.
Claudia's "disease" and then death, and then the fire.
Would also explain why sheriff (deputy at the time)wouldn't look into fire further. Distracted by grief n drowning his sorrows
Unfortunately, FTD is also associated with a shorter lifespan. Average life expectancy is 7 to 13 years after the start of symptoms.
So its likely she already had symptoms when they met n he just thought of as quirks or never actually realized the difference cuz didn't know her before symptoms
According to the Sheriff in Alpha Pact, she died 8 years ago.
According to the file seen in Silverfinger, she died in 2004.
These two combined don't match up with the fact that it was still the autumn of 2011 in Beacon Hills when this information was provided.
If she had died at midnight on January 1st 2004 it would be just 7 years, 9 months at the time the Sheriff was talking to Melissa McCall and Chris Argent under the Nemeton.
+++(altho maybe sheriff rounded the time up, and maybe is why stiles was so eager to go out n look for body that night...was around that time)
We’re going with Claudia’s death happening roughly seven years before the events of Season 3, placing it sometime in 2004.
She died after suffering from frontotemporal dementia.
According to the Sheriff in Alpha Pact, she was hospitalized and Stiles was with her when she died.
According to the file seen in Silverfinger, she was suffering symptoms similar to those her son was experiencing during the first half of Season 3(b).
In Riddled - Stiles explains that she suffered from frontotemporal dementia, a shrinkage of the brain that leads to dementia and death.
If noah conjured claudia, does mean he has magic too?
Just unaware?
Maybe is part of reason his dad was alcoholic too? Magic they didn't know about n it had negative effects
Would also explain stiles' adhd if wanted to
Natalie (Lydia's mom) n Claudia bffs in school?
Claudia Gajos, the daughter of Mieczysław Gajos and an unnamed mother, who attended Beacon Hills High School in the same class as Natalie Martin. ("Relics")
She met Noah Stilinski and was engaged to him while they were still in college.
In 1995, they gave birth to a son, named after her own father and nicknamed Stiles after Stilinski's father, Elias Stilinski. ("Sundowning")
However, in 2003, Claudia was diagnosed with frontotemporal dementia, a fatal disease that caused her perception of reality deteriorate rapidly.
She soon began suffering from insomnia, an inability to distinguish dreams from reality, sleepwalking, sleep paralysis, irritability, and paranoia.
STILES--Claudia had gift.
Foresight?
Got sick, still got visions.
Saw stiles as nogitsune in future.
Is also why didn't always recognize him
This put a great deal of strain on both Claudia herself and her husband and son, especially when the dementia caused her to believe Stiles was trying to kill her. ("Required Reading")
What if claudia n the sheriff weren't on best of terms?
FTD has early symptoms years ahead of diagnosis rite?
And they are often wrongly called by other names til eventually they figure it out.
It can be pure forgetfulness, which can be a hundred tiny annoyances piling up.
Mood swings which are annoying and stressful.
And lead yo a diagnosis of bipolar, which is SO OFTEN a death knell for a relationship.
So it makes sense stiles was only kid.
Besides the fact that it turns out folks with higher iq scores tend to have fewer kids
Makes sense for them to have had him 1st and then all this comes more and more prevalent b4 they r ready to have 2nd, if theyd wanted. Which i kinda feel they wouldve.
So maybe they were on the outs, maybe considering splitting, maybe just going thru several rough times. Whatev. I mean, stiles doesn't get his ignore prob yil goes away from nobody.
And noah didn't go yo hospital when he was told to. Yeah, maybe he coulda pushed it away or vlown it off, but he also would've likely accepted it as a possibility and reacted, especially when his reaction to supernatural reveal is considered.
It would also be another reason he would hit the bottle so hard.
Anger n guilt n frustration, along with grief n love.
All of that is more than enuf to drown out his kids needs.
Plus hes such a reminder.
Especially if he had found solace in the rough times by working more. So it had already become a coping mechanism.
She ended up dying in 2004 with her young son Stiles at her bedside while her husband, Stilinski, was dealing with a car accident victim at work; though the victim, a Banshee, warned Noah that he needed to leave right then if he wanted to be with her when she passed, he was a skeptic about the supernatural at this time and guessed that she was just delirious.
When he returned to the hospital, he found Stiles sitting in the hallway with his face in his hands, indicating that Claudia had in face died while he was at the crash site, just as the Banshee had predicted. ("Alpha Pact")
Stiles was 8 when she died
That hallucination of him accusing stiles coulda been all made up by stiles being so young n all the feels involved.
Or something that happened where Sheriff misplaced the blame he felt onto stiles cuz he couldn't face his own overwhelming feels.
Or a combo of the two.
It could explain why took him so long to move on. Also why he froze everything pertaining to claudia. Also why he holds her as perfect, tho she wasn't.
Stiles would've seen her as a little kid sees their parent. Perfect and amazing. So not reliable.
And that sheriff had that version of claudia dreamed up when stiles was forgotten?
Especially when u remember most ppl r not perfect, even when they r dead n u dont wanna talk smack about em or u miss em.
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Magic Stiles:
Ohheytherebigbadwolf--
They let him play with mountain ash one (1) time and then DROPPED IT AND I'M SO SALTY.
HE MADE A 50 FOOT LINE WITH BARELY A HANDFUL.
HE BROKE THE LINE WITHOUT EVEN TOUCHING IT.
Me--
Cuz he showed up WEREWOLVES by being cooler and more badass than they were when he was "just" a human. Now he can flex a magical Spark muscle based on *belief*?! Yeah, naw. They could not allow that to be followed through because obviously Stiles would have whooped the ass of whatever stupidfuck monster came by to fuck with HIS pack and HIS town... aaannnddd stoopid-dead-but-dont-know-it-yet said *what* about his boo and his dad? Smirking Stiles has 2 words for you: "Let's play." After all, have baseball bat and attitude, will travel.
Let's face some reality. Stiles believes he can protect all these supernats he has claimed as his...and He Does. He believes he can surpass human requirements for sleep and caffeine and superbraining with his fuckton sexy brain...and. He. DOES.
Do not doubt the Stiles. The writers Knew. Stiles woulda whipped the monsters and the town and the nemeton and the werewolves into shape and Derek woulda had no choice but to be Even More Blatant about his desperate NEED for some Stiles-lurve. God damn but I miss what an amazing damned show that would've been.
Stiles: This character is a f*king angel.
Sometimes comforting.
Sometimes protective.
Sometimes avenging.
Always beautiful.
Always luminous.
Always knows how to save your ass after he leads you to temptation.
Built completely out of "you may not understand my morals, but if you are Mine, you will always benefit from them."
Stiles is the person who will stand up to derek and argue and then immediately turn around and fling himself in front of the wolf without hesitation to save him
Also: i know what the stiles triplets would be nicknamed. Mischief menace n trouble
Further proof stiles is a supe? When he was forgotten he and peter and 1 other person (prolly another supe) weren't mindless zombies like everyone else
Paige n stiles related? Via Claudia? A cousin? Paige supe is why rejected?
#teen wolf#derek hale#way too tickled by this#collaboration#We had way too much free time together to come up with all this shit#hope you enjoy
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